[Crm-sig] Call for e-vote: LRMoo, F29 Recording Event and its properties

Martin Doerr martin at ics.forth.gr
Mon May 2 19:57:58 EEST 2022


I vote YES.

Further reasoning in the ISSUE I raised in my previous message.

All the best,

Martin

On 4/28/2022 7:27 AM, Pat Riva via Crm-sig wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> This is the last in the series of LRMoo e-votes relating to topics 
> previously discussed at SIG meetings but not voted on. This discussion 
> was held during the October 2021 SIG without a formal vote, but there 
> seemed to be consensus.
>
>
> *Proposal:* Deprecate the class F29 Recording Event, its associated 
> properties R20 recorded (was recorded by), and R65 recorded aspects of 
> (has aspects recorded through).
>
>
> *Reasoning:* The properties R20 and R65 as declared in FRBRoo ver.2.4, 
> have issues with their superproperty statements due to changes brought 
> in with CRMbase 7.1. As defined, only the very general property P15 
> was influenced by (influenced) could be a candidate superproperty that 
> remains compatible with the ranges. The ranges of these properties are 
> very broad: R20 has range E2 Temporal Entity, and R65 has range E18 
> Thing. These broad concepts of capturing, particularly R65, are much 
> broader than the scope of LRMoo.
>
>
> F29 Recording Event is unneeded as a class without its specific 
> properties. It is declared as a subclass of F28 Expression Creation, 
> but actually should be a subclass of F30 Manifestation Creation. The 
> F30 and F28 events can operate via recording, but the broader classes 
> can have all the relationships needed to fully characterize the events.
>
>
> If you agree, vote *Yes*. If you disagree vote *No*, preferably with 
> an explanation.
>
> To refer the discussion to a future SIG meeting, vote *VETO*.
>
> Please vote by May*4,* at which point I will summarize for the list.
>
>
>
> For reference, the currently approved definitions.
>
>
>       F29 Recording Event
>
> Subclass of: _F28 <#_F31_Expression_Creation>_Expression Creation
>
> Scope note: This class comprises activities that intend to convey (and 
> preserve) the features of perdurants in a recording, such as a live 
> recording of a performance, a documentary, or other capture of a 
> perdurant. Such activities may follow the directions of a recording 
> plan. They may include post-production.
>
> Examples:
>
>  *
>
>     the making of the recording of the third alternate take of the
>     musical work titled ‘Blue Hawaii’ as performed by Elvis Presley in
>     Hollywood, California, Radio Recorders, on March 22^nd , 1961
>
>  *
>
>     the making of the photograph of the three Allied leaders at Yalta
>     in February 1945
>
>  *
>
>     the making of the recording of an East Australian humpback whale
>     song in 1994 in the framework of the Oceania Project
>
>  *
>
>     filming Louise Bourgeois at work in the context of the shooting of
>     the documentary entitled ‘Louise Bourgeois: The Spider, the
>     Mistress, and the Tangerine’
>
> Properties: _R20 <#_R20_recorded_(was_>_recorded (was recorded 
> through): E2 Temporal Entity
>
> _R65 <#_R65_recorded_aspects>_recorded aspects of (had aspects 
> recorded through): _E18 <#_E18_Physical_Thing_2>_Physical Thing
>
>
>
>       R20 recorded (was recorded through)
>
> Domain: _F29 <#_F29_Recording_Event>_Recording Event
>
> Range: _E2 <#_E2_Temporal_Entity>_Temporal Entity
>
> Subproperty of: _E7 <#_E7_Activity_>_Activity. _P15 
> <#_P15_was_influenced_by_(influenced)>_was influenced by 
> (influenced):_E5 <#_E5_Event_>_Event. _P9i_forms part of: _E5 
> <#_E5_Event_>_Event. _P9 <#_P9_consists_of_(forms_part_of)>_consists 
> of: _E5 <#_E5_Event_>_Event
>
> Quantification: many to many, necessary (1,n:0,n)
>
> Scope note: This property associates an instance of F29 Recording 
> Event with the instance of E2 Temporal Entity which was captured.
>
> Examples: The making of the recording of the third alternate take of 
> the musical work entitled ‘Blue Hawaii’ as performed by Elvis Presley 
> in Hollywood, California, Radio Recorders, on March 22nd, 1961 (F29) 
> /recorded/ Elvis Presley’s performance of the musical work entitled 
> ‘Blue Hawaii’ in Hollywood, California, Radio Recorders, on March 
> 22nd, 1961 (F31).
>
>
>       R65 recorded aspects of (had aspects recorded through)
>
> Domain: _F29 <#_F29_Recording_Event>_Recording Event
>
> Range: _E18 <#_E18_Physical_Thing_2>_Physical Thing
>
> Shortcut of: _F29 <#_F29_Recording_Event>_Recording Event. _R20 
> <#_R20_recorded_(was_>_recorded: _E3 <#_E3_Condition_State>_Condition 
> State._P44i <#_P44_has_condition>_is condition of: _E18 
> <#_E18_Physical_Thing_2>_Physical Thing
>
> Subproperty of shortcut of: _F29 <#_F29_Recording_Event>_Recording 
> Event. _R20 <#_R20_recorded_(was_>_recorded: _E5 <#_E5_Event_>_Event. 
> _P12 <#_P12_occurred_in>_occurred in the presence of: _E18 
> <#_E18_Physical_Thing_2>_Physical Thing
>
> Quantification: many to many (0,n:0,n)
>
> Scope note: This property associates an instance of F29 Recording 
> Event with an instance of E18 Physical Thing some of whose features, 
> at the time of recording, were recorded in that process.
>
> Examples: The making of the photograph of the three Allied leaders at 
> Yalta in February 1945 (F29) /recorded aspects of/Stalin (E21).
>
> Filming Louise Bourgeois at work in the context of the shooting of the 
> documentary entitled ‘Louise Bourgeois: The Spider, the Mistress, and 
> the Tangerine’ (F29) /recorded aspects of/ Louise Bourgeois (E21).
>
>
>
> Pat Riva
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> Concordia University / Université Concordia
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> Canada
> pat.riva at concordia.ca
>
>
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