[Crm-sig] Call for e-vote issue 517

Pat Riva pat.riva at concordia.ca
Mon Mar 21 04:29:53 EET 2022


Hi Christian-Emil,

I am very late, but I vote yes for the properties as given in the table (with the correction indicated below by Martin).

In the document with the changes resulting for the scope notes, I think P86 is supposed to be reflexive, like P89? And P176 should say asymmetric (like P182)?
I also corrected two typos.

Thanks for all your explanations of these distinctions and how we should use the terms.

Pat

Pat Riva
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From: Crm-sig <crm-sig-bounces at ics.forth.gr> on behalf of Christian-Emil Smith Ore via Crm-sig <crm-sig at ics.forth.gr>
Sent: March 3, 2022 2:50 PM
To: Martin Doerr <martin at ics.forth.gr>; crm-sig at ics.forth.gr <crm-sig at ics.forth.gr>
Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote issue 517


Corrected, my typo.

Best,

Christian-Emil


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From: Crm-sig <crm-sig-bounces at ics.forth.gr> on behalf of Martin Doerr via Crm-sig <crm-sig at ics.forth.gr>
Sent: 03 March 2022 20:38
To: crm-sig at ics.forth.gr
Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote issue 517

Dear Christian-Emil,

I corrected an error: P173 is "not transitive". Then I vote YES.

Best,

Martin

On 3/3/2022 9:13 PM, Christian-Emil Smith Ore via Crm-sig wrote:

Dear all,

As agreed in the 52nd meeting the background material and the suggested (small) changes  were made available for discussion and comments on the sig-list.  The dead line 1st March. It has not been much discussion and comments - in fact none. The issue should not be controversial. It is time for an e-vote over the  the full definition text for the 32 properties with suggested changes (msword with track changes)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fS7XjApOYimwZnQbmedU3Gk9u3uejETe/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=102982314589061437159&rtpof=true&sd=true<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1fS7XjApOYimwZnQbmedU3Gk9u3uejETe%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing%26ouid%3D102982314589061437159%26rtpof%3Dtrue%26sd%3Dtrue&data=04%7C01%7Cpat.riva%40concordia.ca%7Cab4b607ac94c49e98a4708d9fd4fb875%7C5569f185d22f4e139850ce5b1abcd2e8%7C0%7C0%7C637819341124972736%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=wPhTvCCi38ROU%2FrhDNlE34WKn46zFK9ENNvuktsTJVQ%3D&reserved=0>



Those in favour, vote yes. Those against vote no, and those who want the issue discussed at the next sig meeting can vote 'veto'

Kind regards,
Christian-Emil

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From: Christian-Emil Smith Ore
Sent: 14 February 2022 09:47
To: crm-sig
Subject: issue 517 comments, discussion until end of February


Dear all,

The issue 517 with the somewhat misleading title "Does the axiom of non-reflexivity follow from the definition of transitivity?" boils down to checking transitivity, symmetry and reflexivity of the 32 properties in CRMbase with identical domain and range. In the meeting last week (52nd) we decided that the SIG should have the possibility to study and discuss the suggested changes until the end of February. On the bais of the discussion and comments, a proposal for changes will be sent out on an e-vote.


The full definition text for the 32 properties with suggested changes (msword with track changes)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fS7XjApOYimwZnQbmedU3Gk9u3uejETe/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=102982314589061437159&rtpof=true&sd=true<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1fS7XjApOYimwZnQbmedU3Gk9u3uejETe%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing%26ouid%3D102982314589061437159%26rtpof%3Dtrue%26sd%3Dtrue&data=04%7C01%7Cpat.riva%40concordia.ca%7Cab4b607ac94c49e98a4708d9fd4fb875%7C5569f185d22f4e139850ce5b1abcd2e8%7C0%7C0%7C637819341124972736%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=wPhTvCCi38ROU%2FrhDNlE34WKn46zFK9ENNvuktsTJVQ%3D&reserved=0>

Overview:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xzxk1izWTLSTMs5JZuum77PiF73reNJDQxGyENzZeBQ/edit?usp=sharing<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fspreadsheets%2Fd%2F1Xzxk1izWTLSTMs5JZuum77PiF73reNJDQxGyENzZeBQ%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7Cpat.riva%40concordia.ca%7Cab4b607ac94c49e98a4708d9fd4fb875%7C5569f185d22f4e139850ce5b1abcd2e8%7C0%7C0%7C637819341124972736%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=%2FSRchcNJFtMlxlYq3v2qR7Oh3xTBBlHWfL0g5OH0V0w%3D&reserved=0>

MD & CEO comments and discussion:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11E1PPNij7R8MueZLEGjB5a4RM6dolG-K/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=102982314589061437159&rtpof=true&sd=true<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F11E1PPNij7R8MueZLEGjB5a4RM6dolG-K%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing%26ouid%3D102982314589061437159%26rtpof%3Dtrue%26sd%3Dtrue&data=04%7C01%7Cpat.riva%40concordia.ca%7Cab4b607ac94c49e98a4708d9fd4fb875%7C5569f185d22f4e139850ce5b1abcd2e8%7C0%7C0%7C637819341124972736%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=%2FqRAZus36j%2Fmt8mRr10LUFXxJt7Q%2B9ayLbhK4YQkLAw%3D&reserved=0>


Best,

Christian-Emil




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