[Crm-sig] RDFS, XML and more

Martin Doerr martin at ics.forth.gr
Wed Sep 8 16:46:03 EEST 2021


Dear Miel,

Could you present this in the next SIG?😁

Martin

On 9/8/2021 11:07 AM, Miel Vander Sande via Crm-sig wrote:
> Hi Pavlos,
>
> Op di 7 sep. 2021 om 09:38 schreef Pavlos Fafalios 
> <fafalios at ics.forth.gr <mailto:fafalios at ics.forth.gr>>:
>
>     Dear Miel,
>
>     Thank you for your comments.
>
>     Having a JSON-LD serialization seems useful, given the increasing
>     adoption of this encoding format. We can start considering its
>     implementation once the RDFS is approved by CRM SIG.
>
>
> When done right, it can make complex models like CIDOC-CRM look a lot 
> less scary. I think the goal should not be a complete implementation 
> of CIDOC-CRM in a single context, but rather lead to an entry-level 
> format that can be expanded when necessary (json-ld allows you to do 
> this). I'm working on similar examples for PREMIS OWL.
>
>
>     About SHACL: do you mean using SHACL for schema validation, or for
>     defining constraints/requirements over crm-compliant RDF graphs? I
>     guess the latter. This is interesting as well, but it also
>     requires careful design and thinking/discussions on what types of
>     constraints to consider and define.
>
>
> same here. I think both are very useful, but the latter can provide an 
> easy to adopt, entry-level view on CIDOC-CRM. In any case, you cannot 
> capture an open ontology in a single SHACL schema; they will always be 
> one or more constraint views aimed at implementation and easy adoption.
>
> In fact, this is what we have done in Belgium with the OSLO programme 
> by defining a consensus-driven application profile of cidoc-crm. You 
> can find JSON-LD and SHACL implementations at the bottom of this page: 
> https://data.vlaanderen.be/doc/applicatieprofiel/cultureel-erfgoed-event/#shacl 
> <https://data.vlaanderen.be/doc/applicatieprofiel/cultureel-erfgoed-event/#shacl>
>
> Best,
>
> Miel
>
>
>     Best regards,
>     Pavlos
>
>     On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 3:37 PM Miel Vander Sande
>     <miel.vandersande at meemoo.be <mailto:miel.vandersande at meemoo.be>>
>     wrote:
>
>         Thanks to all involved for this contribution. This is indeed
>         an important step towards adoption.
>
>         I was wondering: is a SHACL profile and a JSON-LD context
>         being considered?
>
>         Op wo 1 sep. 2021 om 10:19 schreef Pavlos Fafalios via Crm-sig
>         <crm-sig at ics.forth.gr <mailto:crm-sig at ics.forth.gr>>:
>
>             Dear all,
>
>             The "Resources" page of the CIDOC-CRM website
>             (http://www.cidoc-crm.org/versions-of-the-cidoc-crm
>             <http://www.cidoc-crm.org/versions-of-the-cidoc-crm>) has
>             been recently updated to include:
>
>             - An *RDFS implementation* (_not yet approved by SIG_) of
>             the last official version of CIDOC-CRM (7.1.1). The link
>             points to a gitlab web page which also includes the
>             policies adopted for generating the RDFS file.
>             - An *XML file* for each version of CIDOC-CRM, including
>             the classes and properties of the corresponding version.
>             - An *HTML page* for each version of CIDOC-CRM, containing
>             declarations for all classes and properties (facilitating
>             navigation to the classes and properties of each version).
>             - An HTML page for each version of CIDOC-CRM, containing
>             *translations *and *versioning *information of all classes
>             and properties.
>
>             We (at FORTH) believe that the above will facilitate the
>             adoption of CIDOC-CRM.
>
>             We will start gathering comments about errors,
>             improvements, etc., so please do not hesitate to provide
>             your critical feedback.
>
>             All the above will be presented and discussed during the
>             next CIDOC-CRM meeting.
>
>             Best regards,
>             Pavlos
>
>             -- 
>             Dr. Pavlos Fafalios
>             Postdoctoral research fellow
>             Project ReKnow <https://reknow.ics.forth.gr/> (MSCA
>             Individual Fellowship)
>
>             Centre for Cultural Informatics / Information Systems
>             Laboratory
>             Institute of Computer Science (ICS)
>             Foundation for Research and Technology (FORTH)
>                and
>             Visiting Lecturer
>             Department of Management Science & Technology (MST),
>             Hellenic Mediterranean University (HMU)
>
>             Address: N. Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, 70013
>             Heraklion, Greece
>             Email: fafalios at ics.forth.gr <mailto:fafalios at ics.forth.gr>
>             Tel: +30-2810-391619
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>             <http://users.ics.forth.gr/~fafalios/>
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>     -- 
>     Dr. Pavlos Fafalios
>     Postdoctoral research fellow
>     Project ReKnow <https://reknow.ics.forth.gr/> (MSCA Individual
>     Fellowship)
>
>     Centre for Cultural Informatics / Information Systems Laboratory
>     Institute of Computer Science (ICS)
>     Foundation for Research and Technology (FORTH)
>        and
>     Visiting Lecturer
>     Department of Management Science & Technology (MST),
>     Hellenic Mediterranean University (HMU)
>
>     Address: N. Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, 70013 Heraklion, Greece
>     Email: fafalios at ics.forth.gr <mailto:fafalios at ics.forth.gr>
>     Tel: +30-2810-391619
>     Web: http://users.ics.forth.gr/~fafalios/
>     <http://users.ics.forth.gr/~fafalios/>
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