[Crm-sig] ISSUE: Scope note of E37 Mark

Ethan Gruber ewg4xuva at gmail.com
Sun Jan 19 15:48:08 EET 2020


I disagree with changing scope note of Mark (removing indication of
authority, purpose, etc.) because this fundamentally changes the semantic
meaning of Mark, rendering my entire use case obsolete.

The only real point of contention in my mind is whether Inscription is a
subclass of Mark. It can be in some circumstances, but not in others. But I
do think that an Inscription is universally a Linguistic Object. So I would
suggest removing the Mark superclass from Inscription in the ontology
itself. This still allows individual users to assign both the Mark and
Inscription classes to objects within their own data.

Ethan


On Sun, Jan 19, 2020, 8:36 AM Martin Doerr <martin at ics.forth.gr> wrote:

> Dear Christian-Emi, all,
>
> The answer to the crying smily (German roots "greinen" and "grinsen" are
> still distinguished) should be given by the epigraphy experts. What
> matters, is their good practice, if it is not conflicting with other
> disciplinary practices and basic ontological principles. I suggest
> Francesca and Achille to give us more insight. They are preparing the
> respective CRM extension for epigraphy, and we need a good interface to it.
> If necessary, we redesign these classes to their needs.
>
> Best,
>
> Martin
>
> On 1/19/2020 9:40 AM, Christian-Emil Smith Ore wrote:
>
> ​I see your point, I have no problem with that and I have no intention to
> suggest that such a requirement should be added to some of the scopenotes.
> It is a meta interpretation of the model based on the scope notes not a
> part of the model as such.  if the part of a vusual sound track is depicted
> on a surface, then it may represent a linguistic object without being
> considered as atext
>
>
> The inscription class itself depends on  how one defines 'text' (not
> easy) and with or without interpretation  'Ikke grin!' in Danish means
> 'Don't smile!' In Norwegian 'Don'cry!'. An engraving 'Ikke grin!​' is it
> one inscription, two inscrptions or no inscription (Mark) and simply a
> human made physical feature?
>
>
> Best,
>
> Christian-Emil
>
>
>
>
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