[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: symbolic content

Martin Doerr martin at ics.forth.gr
Wed Sep 19 23:09:58 EEST 2018


Here my scope note:


      Pxxx has symbolic content

Domain:             E90 Symbolic Object
<#_E2_Temporal_Entity>

Range:E62 String

Quantification:many to many (0,n:0,n) ??

Scope note:This property associates  an instance of E90 Symbolic Object 
with a complete, identifying representation of its content in the form 
of an instance of E62 String. This property only applies to instances of 
E90 Symbolic Object that can be represented completely in this form. The 
representation may be more specific than the symbolic level defining the 
identity condition of the represented. This depends on the type of the 
symbolic object represented. For instance, if a name has type "Modern 
Greek character sequence", it may be represented in a loss-free Latin 
transcription, meaning however the sequence of Greek letters. As another 
example, if the represented object has type "English words sequence", 
American English or British English spelling variants may be chosen to 
represent the English word "colour" without defining a different 
symbolic object. If a name has type "European traditional name", no 
particular string may define its content.


Examples:


* The materials description (E33) of the painting (E22)  _/has symbolic 
content/_ “Oil, French Watercolors on Paper, Graphite and Ink on Canvas, 
with an Oak frame.”

* The title (E35) of Einstein’s 1915 text (E73) _/has symbolic content/_ 
“Relativity, the Special and the General Theory“

* The story of Little Red Riding Hood (E33) _/has symbolic content/_ 
“Once upon a time there lived in a certain village …”

* The inscription (E34) on Rijksmuseum object SK-A-1601 (E22) _/has 
symbolic content/_ “B”



On 9/17/2018 10:38 PM, Robert Sanderson wrote:
>
> Examples I have a lot of!
>
> How about …
>
> * The materials description (E33) of the painting (E22)  _/has 
> symbolic content/_ “Oil, French Watercolors on Paper, Graphite and Ink 
> on Canvas, with an Oak frame.”
>
> * The title (E35) of Einstein’s 1915 text (E73) _/has symbolic 
> content/_ “Relativity, the Special and the General Theory“
>
> * The story of Little Red Riding Hood (E33) _/has symbolic content/_ 
> “Once upon a time there lived in a certain village …”
>
> * The inscription (E34) on Rijksmuseum object SK-A-1601 (E22) _/has 
> symbolic content/_ “B”
>
> Rob
>
> *From: *Crm-sig <crm-sig-bounces at ics.forth.gr> on behalf of Richard 
> Light <richard at light.demon.co.uk>
> *Date: *Monday, September 17, 2018 at 12:09 PM
> *To: *"crm-sig at ics.forth.gr" <crm-sig at ics.forth.gr>
> *Subject: *Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: symbolic content
>
> Rob,
>
> Absolutely.  So now we need to draft the text to describe this 
> property, in suitably generalized terms, for the CRM, and then update 
> our RDF documentation to say exactly how it is to be used in that 
> context.  Perhaps we should start with some examples?
>
> Richard
>
> On 17/09/2018 19:49, Robert Sanderson wrote:
>
>     Thank you, Martin! I think this is exactly what we need ☺
>
>     Rob
>
>     *From: *Crm-sig <crm-sig-bounces at ics.forth.gr>
>     <mailto:crm-sig-bounces at ics.forth.gr> on behalf of Martin Doerr
>     <martin at ics.forth.gr> <mailto:martin at ics.forth.gr>
>     *Date: *Friday, September 14, 2018 at 10:23 AM
>     *To: *"crm-sig at ics.forth.gr" <mailto:crm-sig at ics.forth.gr>
>     <crm-sig at ics.forth.gr> <mailto:crm-sig at ics.forth.gr>
>     *Subject: *[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: symbolic content
>
>     Dear All,
>
>     I propose a new property of Symbolic Object : "has symbolic
>     content : String" , in RDFS subproperty of rdfs:value.
>
>     The "level of symbolic specificity" by which the String is
>     interpreted should conform to the type of the Symbolic Object.
>
>     Best,
>
>     Martin
>
>     On 9/14/2018 7:54 PM, Richard Light wrote:
>
>         On 13/09/2018 20:57, Martin Doerr wrote:
>
>             Dear Richard,
>
>
>
>
>
>                     What we need, to my opinion, is a property of
>                     Symbolic Object we may call it "has symbolic
>                     content" or "has symbolic content inline" or
>                     anything better, which defines that the symbolic
>                     content *is identical to* the Literal, *abstracted
>                     *to the "level of symbolic specificity" that the
>                     Literal implies and that conforms to the identity
>                     condition of the Symbolic Object, i.e., characters
>                     of a certain script, or whatever. That would make
>                     the meaning of the "value" unambiguous.
>
>                 Again, I'm in complete agreement with this line of
>                 thought.  One decision we should make is whether this
>                 property forms part of the generic CRM framework, or
>                 if it is to be an implementation-specific property
>                 which only appears in our RDF implementation of the
>                 CRM.  My instinct is for it to go into the CRM proper:
>                 the treatment of Symbolic Object and its subclasses
>                 would I think be made clearer by the addition of this
>                 property.
>
>             For CRM proper!
>
>         OK: perhaps we should start a new issue to address this?
>
>
>
>
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