[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: symbolic content

Nicola Carboni nicola.carboni at map.cnrs.fr
Tue Sep 18 00:34:12 EEST 2018


Dear Martin, 

I can confirm that having symbolic content as subclass of rdf:value would incredibly help!!

Best, 

Nicola










> On 17 Sep 2018, at 21:38, Robert Sanderson <RSanderson at getty.edu> wrote:
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> Examples I have a lot of!
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>  
> How about …
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> * The materials description (E33) of the painting (E22)  _has symbolic content_ “Oil, French Watercolors on Paper, Graphite and Ink on Canvas, with an Oak frame.”
> * The title (E35) of Einstein’s 1915 text (E73) _has symbolic content_ “Relativity, the Special and the General Theory“
> * The story of Little Red Riding Hood (E33) _has symbolic content_ “Once upon a time there lived in a certain village …”
> * The inscription (E34) on Rijksmuseum object SK-A-1601 (E22) _has symbolic content_ “B”
>    
> Rob
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>  
> From: Crm-sig <crm-sig-bounces at ics.forth.gr> on behalf of Richard Light <richard at light.demon.co.uk>
> Date: Monday, September 17, 2018 at 12:09 PM
> To: "crm-sig at ics.forth.gr" <crm-sig at ics.forth.gr>
> Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: symbolic content
>  
> Rob,
> 
> Absolutely.  So now we need to draft the text to describe this property, in suitably generalized terms, for the CRM, and then update our RDF documentation to say exactly how it is to be used in that context.  Perhaps we should start with some examples?
> 
> Richard
> 
> On 17/09/2018 19:49, Robert Sanderson wrote:
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> Thank you, Martin! I think this is exactly what we need ☺
>  
> Rob
>  
> From: Crm-sig <crm-sig-bounces at ics.forth.gr> <mailto:crm-sig-bounces at ics.forth.gr> on behalf of Martin Doerr <martin at ics.forth.gr> <mailto:martin at ics.forth.gr>
> Date: Friday, September 14, 2018 at 10:23 AM
> To: "crm-sig at ics.forth.gr" <mailto:crm-sig at ics.forth.gr> <crm-sig at ics.forth.gr> <mailto:crm-sig at ics.forth.gr>
> Subject: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: symbolic content
>  
> Dear All,
> 
> I propose a new property of Symbolic Object : "has symbolic content : String" , in RDFS subproperty of rdfs:value.
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> The "level of symbolic specificity" by which the String is interpreted should conform to the type of the Symbolic Object.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Martin
> 
> On 9/14/2018 7:54 PM, Richard Light wrote:
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> On 13/09/2018 20:57, Martin Doerr wrote:
> Dear Richard,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> What we need, to my opinion, is a property of Symbolic Object we may call it "has symbolic content" or "has symbolic content inline" or anything better, which defines that the symbolic content is identical to the Literal, abstracted to the "level of symbolic specificity" that the Literal implies and that conforms to the identity condition of the Symbolic Object, i.e., characters of a certain script, or whatever. That would make the meaning of the "value" unambiguous.
> Again, I'm in complete agreement with this line of thought.  One decision we should make is whether this property forms part of the generic CRM framework, or if it is to be an implementation-specific property which only appears in our RDF implementation of the CRM.  My instinct is for it to go into the CRM proper: the treatment of Symbolic Object and its subclasses would I think be made clearer by the addition of this property.
> For CRM proper!
> OK: perhaps we should start a new issue to address this?
> 
> 
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