[Crm-sig] ISSUE: representing compound name strings

Øyvind Eide lister at oeide.no
Thu Nov 22 07:52:44 EET 2018

Dear Martin,

this is how the TEI would do it: http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ND.html#NDPER

So something like:

<persName><roleName type=”royal”>His Majesty</roleName> <roleName type=”academic”>Dr.</roleName> <forename>Snoopy</forename> <addName type=”nickname”>Hickup</addName> <surname>Miller</surname> <genName>Jr</genName></persName>

But one would need guidelines, esp. for the type attribute. In TEI everything can be done, and in several ways...



> Am 21.11.2018 um 23:11 schrieb Martin Doerr <martin at ics.forth.gr>:
> Dear Richard,
> XML is even better. The distinction between XML tags and MARC subfield markers is not so substantial. An XML file is still a string. The question is about RDF, putting a compound into rdfs:Literal. 
> So, again, is there a good practice with XML elements ????
> Cheers,
> Martin
> On 11/21/2018 6:58 PM, Richard Light wrote:
>> On 15/11/2018 21:28, Martin Doerr wrote:
>>> Dear All, 
>>> I would expect that the library or archival community do have a good practice how to "squeeze" a compound name, such as : 
>>> "His Majesty Dr. Snoopy Hickup Miller Jr", with respective separators, in a machine readable string, that could be used as custom datatype in an rdfs:Literal as one instance of Appellation, rather than defining all possible name constituents as individual rdf properties. 
>>> Could be a MARC string? XML? TEI? 
>>> This would be very helpful for our users. 
>> Martin,
>> I'm pretty sure that the most recent attempt at doing this will be the subfield markers ($a, etc.) in MARC. which date from the era of punched cards.  The requirement that all of the name appears in a single string will rule out anything that might have been done in XML (where you might typically use attributes or subelements) or TEI (which is, after all, simply an XML application).
>> It's a nice idea, which follows the approach of encoding one 'compound' value as a single string, but I don't think we will find a ready-made standard for it.
>> Richard
>>> Best, 
>>> Martin 
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