[Crm-sig] Issue 383 Homework
Martin Doerr
martin at ics.forth.gr
Tue Nov 6 16:46:24 EET 2018
Dear All,
I had sent the below as new issue, but it is indeed the answer to Issue 383.
The question is, how to deal with a file, which is more specific in
content, such as an MS Word, but represents the character sequence that
defines the content of the respective E90. Is is "is incorporated in",
or a subproperty of it?
On 9/19/2018 11:09 PM, Martin Doerr wrote:
> Here my scope note:
>
>
> Pxxx has symbolic content
>
> Domain: E90 Symbolic Object
> <#_E2_Temporal_Entity>
>
> Range:E62 String
>
> Quantification:many to many (0,n:0,n) ??
>
In CRM RDFS subproperty of: rdfs:value
>
> Scope note:This property associates an instance of E90 Symbolic
> Object with a complete, identifying representation of its content in
> the form of an instance of E62 String. This property only applies to
> instances of E90 Symbolic Object that can be represented completely in
> this form. The representation may be more specific than the symbolic
> level defining the identity condition of the represented. This depends
> on the type of the symbolic object represented. For instance, if a
> name has type "Modern Greek character sequence", it may be represented
> in a loss-free Latin transcription, meaning however the sequence of
> Greek letters. As another example, if the represented object has type
> "English words sequence", American English or British English spelling
> variants may be chosen to represent the English word "colour" without
> defining a different symbolic object. If a name has type "European
> traditional name", no particular string may define its content.
>
>
> Examples:
>
>
> * The materials description (E33) of the painting (E22) _/has
> symbolic content/_ “Oil, French Watercolors on Paper, Graphite and Ink
> on Canvas, with an Oak frame.”
>
> * The title (E35) of Einstein’s 1915 text (E73) _/has symbolic
> content/_ “Relativity, the Special and the General Theory“
>
> * The story of Little Red Riding Hood (E33) _/has symbolic content/_
> “Once upon a time there lived in a certain village …”
>
> * The inscription (E34) on Rijksmuseum object SK-A-1601 (E22) _/has
> symbolic content/_ “B”
>
>
>
> On 9/17/2018 10:38 PM, Robert Sanderson wrote:
>>
>> Examples I have a lot of!
>>
>> How about …
>>
>> * The materials description (E33) of the painting (E22) _/has
>> symbolic content/_ “Oil, French Watercolors on Paper, Graphite and
>> Ink on Canvas, with an Oak frame.”
>>
>> * The title (E35) of Einstein’s 1915 text (E73) _/has symbolic
>> content/_ “Relativity, the Special and the General Theory“
>>
>> * The story of Little Red Riding Hood (E33) _/has symbolic content/_
>> “Once upon a time there lived in a certain village …”
>>
>> * The inscription (E34) on Rijksmuseum object SK-A-1601 (E22) _/has
>> symbolic content/_ “B”
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> *From: *Crm-sig <crm-sig-bounces at ics.forth.gr> on behalf of Richard
>> Light <richard at light.demon.co.uk>
>> *Date: *Monday, September 17, 2018 at 12:09 PM
>> *To: *"crm-sig at ics.forth.gr" <crm-sig at ics.forth.gr>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: symbolic content
>>
>> Rob,
>>
>> Absolutely. So now we need to draft the text to describe this
>> property, in suitably generalized terms, for the CRM, and then update
>> our RDF documentation to say exactly how it is to be used in that
>> context. Perhaps we should start with some examples?
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> On 17/09/2018 19:49, Robert Sanderson wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, Martin! I think this is exactly what we need ☺
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> *From: *Crm-sig <crm-sig-bounces at ics.forth.gr>
>> <mailto:crm-sig-bounces at ics.forth.gr> on behalf of Martin Doerr
>> <martin at ics.forth.gr> <mailto:martin at ics.forth.gr>
>> *Date: *Friday, September 14, 2018 at 10:23 AM
>> *To: *"crm-sig at ics.forth.gr" <mailto:crm-sig at ics.forth.gr>
>> <crm-sig at ics.forth.gr> <mailto:crm-sig at ics.forth.gr>
>> *Subject: *[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: symbolic content
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I propose a new property of Symbolic Object : "has symbolic
>> content : String" , in RDFS subproperty of rdfs:value.
>>
>> The "level of symbolic specificity" by which the String is
>> interpreted should conform to the type of the Symbolic Object.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> On 9/14/2018 7:54 PM, Richard Light wrote:
>>
>> On 13/09/2018 20:57, Martin Doerr wrote:
>>
>> Dear Richard,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> What we need, to my opinion, is a property of
>> Symbolic Object we may call it "has symbolic
>> content" or "has symbolic content inline" or
>> anything better, which defines that the symbolic
>> content *is identical to* the Literal,
>> *abstracted *to the "level of symbolic
>> specificity" that the Literal implies and that
>> conforms to the identity condition of the
>> Symbolic Object, i.e., characters of a certain
>> script, or whatever. That would make the meaning
>> of the "value" unambiguous.
>>
>> Again, I'm in complete agreement with this line of
>> thought. One decision we should make is whether this
>> property forms part of the generic CRM framework, or
>> if it is to be an implementation-specific property
>> which only appears in our RDF implementation of the
>> CRM. My instinct is for it to go into the CRM
>> proper: the treatment of Symbolic Object and its
>> subclasses would I think be made clearer by the
>> addition of this property.
>>
>> For CRM proper!
>>
>> OK: perhaps we should start a new issue to address this?
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Dr. Martin Doerr
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Center for Cultural Informatics
Information Systems Laboratory
Institute of Computer Science
Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)
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