[Crm-sig] HW S11

P.M. van Leusen p.m.van.leusen at rug.nl
Tue Apr 10 21:34:11 EEST 2018


I stand corrected!

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 15:19 Martin Doerr <martin at ics.forth.gr> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> By the way, an interesting aspect of samples is that they can be split
> without loosing their identity. Obviously, there is
> some complexity in the object-ness of the sample versus its substance.
> Tracing split samples is a practical issue in labs.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Best,
>
> martin
>
> On 4/10/2018 1:16 PM, Martin Doerr wrote:
>
> Dear Martijn,
>
> A better formulation is always welcome!
>
> Logically, it is correct: "no stability of form is required" does NOT
> exclude stability of form. I give explicitly the example "the sequence of
> layers of a bore core". The point is, that we take a sample for a
> particular feature it will be a witness for. The identity of the sample and
> its duration of existence as a sample depends on the kind of feature that
> needs to be preserved, be it a stratigraphy, a chemical composition or
> whatever. Consequently, it can be diminished quite substanstially without
> loosing this identity, whereas other impacts may not change its
> discreteness as a stable piece of matter, but destroy the relevant
> composition.
>
> Proposals welcome.
>
> Best,
>
> Martin
>
> On 4/9/2018 11:15 PM, P.M. van Leusen wrote:
>
> "no stability of form is required" would exclude some types of samples,
> e.g. kubiena tin samples taken for microstratigraphy, palynology, or
> paleomagnetism. I would advise excising this phrase.
> Martijn
>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 21:19 Martin Doerr <martin at ics.forth.gr> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Here my proposal for a better scope note:
>>
>> S11 Amount of Matter[1]
>>
>>
>>
>> Subclass of:         S10
>> <#m_-4500053899348536980_m_2886038186972212311__S10_Material_Substantial> Material
>> Substantial
>>
>> Superclass of:      S12
>> <#m_-4500053899348536980_m_2886038186972212311__S12_Amount_of> Amount of
>> Fluid
>>
>>                            S13
>> <#m_-4500053899348536980_m_2886038186972212311__S13_Sample> Sample
>>
>>
>>
>> Scope note:         This class comprises fixed amounts of matter
>> specified as some air, some water, some soil, etc., defined by the total
>> and integrity of their material content. In order to be able to identify
>> and recognize in practice one instance of S11 Amount of Matter, some sort
>> of confinement is needed that serves as a constraint for the enclosed
>> matter and the integrity of the content, such as a bottle. In contrast to
>> instances of E18 Physical Thing, no stability of form is required. The
>> content may be put into another bottle without loosing its identity.
>> Subclasses may define very different identity conditions for the integrity
>> of the content, such as chemical composition, or the sequence of layers of
>> a bore core. Whereas an instance of E18 Physical Thing may gradually change
>> form and chemical composition preserving its identity, such as living
>> beings, an instance of S11 Amount of Matter may loose its identifying
>> features by such processes. What matters for the identity of an instance of
>> S1 Amount of Matter is the preservation of a relevant composition from the
>> initial state of definition on.
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