[Crm-sig] Quick question: In response to naysayers in DPLAdiscussion....

Pierre Choffé choffepierre at gmail.com
Mon Jul 11 16:42:25 EEST 2016


Hi Jim, hi Patrick, hi everyone,

The IFLA paper about DOREMUS was written simultaneously in French and
English, the English version can be accessed at
http://library.ifla.org/1322/2/093-choffe-en.pdf

With all very best wishes,
Pierre

2016-07-11 10:23 GMT+02:00 <patrick.le-boeuf at bnf.fr>:

> Hi Jim, and hi everyone,
> Here is a further reference: it's about the use of FRBRoo and CIDOC CRM in
> the French research project named "DOREMUS", which focuses on the extension
> of both ontologies to the field of music (concert planning, scores, audio
> and video recordings, and documentation about musical works, from
> heterogeneous data stores produced by various institutions with various
> descriptive traditions and formats): <
> http://library.ifla.org/1322/1/093-choffe-fr.pdf>. Unfortunately, the
> paper is only available in French so far, but an English translation will
> be provided very soon -- hopefully (once it is available, it will be
> accessed from: < http://library.ifla.org/1322/1/093-choffe-en.pdf>.
> "Serious-ontologies-bashing" has turned quite trendy nowadays. CIDOC CRM
> is not its only victim; FRBR-LRM, the IFLA model that integrates FRBRer,
> FRAD, and FRSAD, was venomously attacked too, by narrow-minded advocates of
> "quick and dirty Frankenstein ontologies". In these times of selfishness
> and fragmentation, consistency and robustness are deemed outmoded. I've no
> clue what will result from these trends; but for sure they're here to stay.
> The smart advocates of the "Pick whichever property from whatever ontology
> you like" attitude will only realize the mess they've created when it is
> too late.
> Best wishes,
> Patrick Le Boeuf
>
>
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> De :        "Jim Salmons" <jim.salmons at factminers.org>
> A :        <crm-sig at ics.forth.gr>
> Date :        08/07/2016 19:43
> Objet :        Re: [Crm-sig] Quick question: In response to naysayers in
> DPLA        discussion....
> Envoyé par :        "Crm-sig" <crm-sig-bounces at ics.forth.gr>
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>
> Fellow SIG folk,
>
> I've had a while to think about things, and want to report a slight change
> of plan.
>
> I greatly appreciate the excellent information provided in the thread of
> this discussion, and it has certainly been a wonderful personal learning
> experience to find out about the exciting implementations and support for
> the #cidocCRM in deployed systems in such prestigious institutions and
> research centers.
>
> I have, however, decided to "keep my head down" and not write a Medium
> article to encourage the DPLA to be more open and transparent with its
> Archival Description Working Group (ADWG) and to better support
> international standards, especially the #cidocCRM, in its hiring of a Data
> Usage and Analytics Developer.
>
> It is hard enough just being an independent, unaffiliated
> #CitizenScientist. Being an advocate for the #cidocCRM in the U.S. with our
> too often "Not Invented Here" and "Go Big or Go Home" attitudes, I can't
> risk alienating an organization that I hope to eventually have credibility
> and influence with.
>
> That said, when I do have a chance in the next few weeks, I plan to write
> an non-DPLA-oriented article focused on the wonderful systems, projects,
> and institutional support of the #cidocCRM as evidenced by Dominic's tweets
> and the various posts to this discussion. So, in this sense, please do not
> hesitate to provide additional contributions to this list citing the
> "latest and greatest" #cidocCRM-compatible systems.
>
> BTW, I am especially interested in learning about any projects or
> institutions using or planning to use #FRBRoo and, most especially,
> #PRESSoo.
>
> I also look forward to learning more about the recent two paper sessions
> on the CRM at #CIDOC2016 in Milan.
>
>    Happy-Healthy Vibes,
>    -: Jim :-
>
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