[Crm-sig] FRBRoo / CRM for prints?
martin at ics.forth.gr
Thu Jul 30 22:58:38 EEST 2015
There has been an implicit discussion in the CRM about prints as
production with particular tools.
Subclass of:E11 <#_E11_Modification> Modification
E63 <#_E63_Beginning_of_Existence> Beginning of Existence
Scope note:This class comprises activities that are designed to, and
succeed in, creating one or more new items.
It specializes the notion of modification into production. The decision
as to whether or not an object is regarded as new is context sensitive.
Normally, items are considered “new” if there is no obvious overall
similarity between them and the consumed items and material used in
their production. In other cases, an item is considered “new” because it
becomes relevant to documentation by a modification. For example, the
scribbling of a name on a potsherd may make it a voting token. The
original potsherd may not be worth documenting, in contrast to the
This entity can be collective: the printing of a thousand books, for
example, would normally be considered a single event.
An event should also be documented using E81 Transformation if it
results in the destruction of one or more objects and the simultaneous
production of others using parts or material from the originals. In this
case, the new items have separate identities and matter is preserved,
but identity is not.
§the construction of the SS Great Britain
§the first casting of the Little Mermaid from the harbour of Copenhagen
§Rembrandt’s creating of the seventh state of his etching “Woman sitting
half dressed beside a stove”, 1658, identified by Bartsch Number 197
So, the print plate undergoes "transformations" and implies the creation
of an information object being present on the plate(s) and the prints,
or, in more creative techniques, the information content of the plate is
"incorporated" in the prints.
The print plate is "used specific object" in the printing process, but a
specialization of E12 may be adequate to fix the
specific kind of use and its consequences of information transfer to the
We are also discussing a generalization of
F32 Carrier Production Event
Subclass of:E12 <#_E12_Production_>Production
Scope note:This class comprises activities that result in instances of
F54 Utilized Information Carrier coming into existence. Both the
production of a series of physical objects (printed books, scores, CDs,
DVDs, CD-ROMS, etc.) and the creation of a new copy of a file on an
electronic carrier are regarded as instances of F32 Carrier Production
Typically, the production of copies of a publication (no matter whether
it is a book, a sound recording, a DVD, a cartographic resource, etc.)
strives to produce items all as similar as possible to a prototype that
displays all the features that all the copies of the publication should
also display, which is reflected in property /R27 used as source
material/ F24 Publication Expression.
into industrial production, of cars, tools, coins and whatever.
Artistic prints with limited copies etc may not be regarded as producing
"things of type XXX".
A CRM extension into the world of artitstic printing may be interesting.
If its only about using AAT vocabulary, Christian-Emil's remark's should
I do not know if the AAT differentiates the plate as museum object from
All the best,
On 30/7/2015 9:48 μμ, Christian-Emil Smith Ore wrote:
> Hi Regine
> If I understand AAT correctly, it is a thesaurus and is as such a hierarchy of concepts and can be seen as a incarnation of a hierarchy under the E55 Type.
> In a CRM/FRBRoo context a print is a physical object (one of the items of a series), for instance a lithography, a paper carrying an image or more. A lithography would usually be given the AAT type 'print' (or belong to this type/be a member of the set of objects that can be said to belong to the hypothetical set of all prints).
> This may not be what you have in mind?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Crm-sig [mailto:crm-sig-bounces at ics.forth.gr] On Behalf Of Stein,
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>> Cc: Gudrun Knaus
>> Subject: [Crm-sig] FRBRoo / CRM for prints?
>> Did anybody go into depth with FRBRoo / CRM modelling or mapping for
>> prints (visual works) (-> http://vocab.getty.edu/aat/300041273 ;-)) , or can
>> point us to respective work on this kind of material?
>> Regine Stein, Dipl.-Math.
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