[Crm-sig] FRBRoo / CRM for prints?

martin martin at ics.forth.gr
Thu Jul 30 22:58:38 EEST 2015

Dear Regine,

There has been an implicit discussion in the CRM about prints as 
production with particular tools.

      E12 Production

Subclass of:E11 <#_E11_Modification> Modification

E63 <#_E63_Beginning_of_Existence> Beginning of Existence

Scope note:This class comprises activities that are designed to, and 
succeed in, creating one or more new items.

It specializes the notion of modification into production. The decision 
as to whether or not an object is regarded as new is context sensitive. 
Normally, items are considered “new” if there is no obvious overall 
similarity between them and the consumed items and material used in 
their production. In other cases, an item is considered “new” because it 
becomes relevant to documentation by a modification. For example, the 
scribbling of a name on a potsherd may make it a voting token. The 
original potsherd may not be worth documenting, in contrast to the 
inscribed one.

This entity can be collective: the printing of a thousand books, for 
example, would normally be considered a single event.

An event should also be documented using E81 Transformation if it 
results in the destruction of one or more objects and the simultaneous 
production of others using parts or material from the originals. In this 
case, the new items have separate identities and matter is preserved, 
but identity is not.


§the construction of the SS Great Britain

§the first casting of the Little Mermaid from the harbour of Copenhagen

§Rembrandt’s creating of the seventh state of his etching “Woman sitting 
half dressed beside a stove”, 1658, identified by Bartsch Number 197 

So, the print plate undergoes "transformations" and implies the creation 
of an information object being present on the plate(s) and the prints, 
or, in more creative techniques, the information content of the plate is 
"incorporated" in the prints.

The print plate is "used specific object" in the printing process, but a 
specialization of E12 may be adequate to fix the
specific kind of use and its consequences of information transfer to the 

We are also discussing a generalization of

            F32 Carrier Production Event

Subclass of:E12 <#_E12_Production_>Production

Scope note:This class comprises activities that result in instances of 
F54 Utilized Information Carrier coming into existence. Both the 
production of a series of physical objects (printed books, scores, CDs, 
DVDs, CD-ROMS, etc.) and the creation of a new copy of a file on an 
electronic carrier are regarded as instances of F32 Carrier Production 

Typically, the production of copies of a publication (no matter whether 
it is a book, a sound recording, a DVD, a cartographic resource, etc.) 
strives to produce items all as similar as possible to a prototype that 
displays all the features that all the copies of the publication should 
also display, which is reflected in property /R27 used as source 
material/ F24 Publication Expression.

into industrial production, of cars, tools, coins and whatever.

Artistic prints with limited copies etc may not be regarded as producing 
"things of type XXX".

A CRM extension into the world of artitstic printing may be interesting.

If its only about using AAT vocabulary, Christian-Emil's remark's should 
be sufficient.

I do not know if the AAT differentiates the plate as museum object from 
the copy.

All the best,


On 30/7/2015 9:48 μμ, Christian-Emil Smith Ore wrote:
> Hi Regine
> If I understand AAT correctly, it is a thesaurus and is as such a hierarchy of concepts and can be seen as a incarnation of a hierarchy under the E55 Type.
> In a CRM/FRBRoo context a print is a physical object (one of the items of  a series), for instance a lithography, a  paper carrying an image  or more. A lithography would usually  be given the AAT type 'print'  (or belong to this type/be a member of the set of objects that can be said to belong to the hypothetical set of all prints).
> This may not be what you have in mind?
> Regards,
> Christian-Emil
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Crm-sig [mailto:crm-sig-bounces at ics.forth.gr] On Behalf Of Stein,
>> Regine
>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 3:06 PM
>> To: crm-sig at ics.forth.gr; frbr-crm at ics.forth.gr
>> Cc: Gudrun Knaus
>> Subject: [Crm-sig] FRBRoo / CRM for prints?
>> Hi,
>> Did anybody go into depth with FRBRoo / CRM modelling or mapping for
>> prints (visual works) (-> http://vocab.getty.edu/aat/300041273 ;-)) , or can
>> point us to respective work on this kind of material?
>> Thanks!
>> Regine
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