[Crm-sig] ISSUE: New property (from FRBRoo/EDM)" incorporates"

martin martin at ics.forth.gr
Fri May 24 19:41:18 EEST 2013


Dear All,

Patrick and I propose to introduce "incorporates" to the CRM,
with the relaxed semantics described below.

Best,

Martin


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Subject: 	[Frbr-crm] RE ISSUE is "incorporates" complete inclusion?
Date: 	Wed, 22 May 2013 10:52:04 +0200
From: 	patrick.le-boeuf at bnf.fr
To: 	frbr-crm at ics.forth.gr




Dear Martin, and dear all,
I agree with the second proposal, i.e., to regard "incorporates" as
meaning actually "incorporates bits of", and create a subproperty for
those cases where it is known or assumed (or even deceptively stated on
the information resource at hand) that the incorporation is complete.
I also think that "incorporates" should be declared in CIDOC CRM rather
than just in FRBRoo; it would then be possible to state that an
information object (and therefore an expression) incorporates e.g. an
image, without having to bother whether an image is a work or an
expression. FRBRer is frequently criticized for its rigidity, and I
admit that the work/expression distinction may not be relevant for some
types of artistic creations, e.g. drawings and paintings, which are
better modelled in CIDOC CRM. Since FRBRoo is an extension of CIDOC CRM,
it should be possible to bypass the rigidity of FRBR and handle some
products of the mind without having to apply to them the irrelevant
work/expression categorization.
Best wishes,
Patrick




	
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Dear All,

If we use the property "incorporates" for the content
transferred from a text to a performance, or from
a performance to a recording, or from a painting to the
digitized form, the question arises if "incorporates" means
complete inclusion. If yes, another intermediate object is needed
to specify the insection of content in the incorporating and
incorporated, in order to express such partial incorporation.
Otherwise, we could relax the meaning of incorporates, and create
a subproperty "complete incorporates".

Opinions?

Best,

Martin
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