[Crm-sig] [Fwd: Linked Data for the Culture Sector]

Stephen Stead steads at paveprime.org
Thu Apr 1 02:48:20 EEST 2010


Surely the individual Acquisition Events "form part of" the Expedition
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Stephen Stead
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-----Original Message-----
From: crm-sig-bounces at ics.forth.gr [mailto:crm-sig-bounces at ics.forth.gr] On Behalf Of Vladimir Ivanov
Sent: 31 March 2010 21:34
To: c.e.s.ore at iln.uio.no
Cc: crm-sig
Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] [Fwd: Linked Data for the Culture Sector]

Dear Christian-Emil, All

> The Kunstkamer catalogue is really nice.
Well, there are two representations of the catalogue actually.

The "HTML" version (at www.kunstkamera.ru) retrieves data from an Oracle's RDB (KAMIS) which knows nothing about the CIDOC CRM, but this is a master database.

I work on the RDF (CRM-based) representation of that database including mapping and update processes.

> The material apparently
> describes many expeditions. Did you model them as well, as temporal 
> entities?

Yes and no. We model them as _distinct_ E8.Acquisition Events which are linked to each corresponding object.
The corresponding collector is modeled as an E39.Actor identified by a term in a certain list.

The Open Office doc with a mapping draft is attached (cannot attach pdf due to the mailing list limits).

The Kunstkamera catalog doesn't have a list for expeditions - only for collector names.
So, we don't have few Expeditions, but we have a lot of E8.Acquisition Events.

One possible decision to this issue is to declare sets of equivalent E8.Acquisition Events by means of owl:sameAs property or to link E8.Acquisition Events with similar rdfs:labels to one _major_ Event (aka Expedition_123).


> In Mr. Brown's case I think it is just a way to sound interesting.
> I hope it will not harm.

So do I.

Russia stands a better chance (Mr. Medvedev has a blog ...)

Best regards,
Vladimir

2010/3/31 Christian-Emil Ore <c.e.s.ore at iln.uio.no>:
> Dear Vladimir & all,
> The Kunstkamer catalogue is really nice. The material apparently 
> describes many expeditions. Did you model them as well, as temporal 
> entities?
>
> Your work is very good. I hope it is a step in training curaturs to 
> understand that it is possible and extremely important to add 
> information about the context of the museum object to the 
> documentation systems. Traditionally a documentation database focus on the object only.
>
> Mr Brown:
> To play the role of the devil's advocate:
> In the spring of 1989, the UK Ministry of Defence declared that all 
> software to be used by MoD had to be mathematically proved correct and 
> verified with respect to specifications expressed as formal logical 
> pre and post conditions. At that time programme correctness (eg type 
> theory and so called Hoare logic) was the big issue in theoretical 
> computer science. For some reasons the MoD silently dropped that requirement.
>
> In Mr. Brown's case I think it is just a way to sound interesting. I 
> hope it will not harm.
>
> Chr-Emil
>
>
>
> On 31.03.2010 18:23, Vladimir Ivanov wrote:
>> Dear Martin, all
>>
>> [QUOTE]
>> Prime Minister Gordon Brown said: Underpinning the digital 
>> transformation that we are likely to see over the coming decade is 
>> the creation of the next generation of the web  what is called the 
>> semantic web, or the web of Linked Data.
>> [QUOTE]
>>
>> Wow!
>>
>> I hope one day Russian administration say something like Prime 
>> Minister Gordon Brown said :) His speech may make our life easier :))
>>
>> By the way, it would be nice if you have a look at the "rdf-face" of 
>> the OKD (Open Kunstkamera Data) Project.
>>
>> We build a LOD infrastructure for the Kunstkamera (MAE RAS) catalog
>> (http://www.kunstkamera.ru/kunst-catalogue/index.seam?c=PHOTO) using 
>> the CIDOC CRM.
>> The project is in its final phase, and is still being developed at 
>> the moment (e.g. the mapping is far form the ideal one).
>> But I really need any feedback from the SIG members and anyone else!
>>
>> Resource descriptions (just click on them :)
>>
>> Museum object description:
>> http://kunst.openmuseumdata.org/data/item_kunst_72381
>>
>> an Instance of the CIDOC CRM class E8.Acquisition Event:
>> http://kunst.openmuseumdata.org/data/Z_E8_Acquisition_Event_e29baeaf-
>> 2967-4039-bc32-cf1468b437e3
>>
>> A concept (representing Place) from the museum vocabulary:
>> http://kunst.openmuseumdata.org/voc/Concept_1219
>>
>> Links to LOD entities (dbpedia, geonames etc.) will be added soon.
>>
>> I also really need real-world references (URIs) to the CIDOC CRM 
>> concepts and properties in the linked data cloud.
>> (I use "http://cidoc.ics.forth.gr/" now, which is in local store - 
>> not accessible from the web)
>>
>> One who is interested could
>> 1) OpenLink RDF browser to navigate the (human readable) RDF store:
>>
>> http://demo.openlinksw.com/rdfbrowser/?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fkunst.openmus
>> eumdata.org%2Fdata%2Fitem_kunst_72381
>>
>>
>> or
>> 2) the "test" service (human unreadable :)
>>
>> http://kunst.openmuseumdata.org/test/?uri=http://kunst.openmuseumdata
>> .org/data/item_kunst_72381
>>
>> http://kunst.openmuseumdata.org/test/?uri=http://cidoc.ics.forth.gr/E
>> 22_Man-Made_Object
>>
>> http://kunst.openmuseumdata.org/test/?uri=http://kunst.openmuseumdata
>> .org/voc/Concept_1219
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Vladimir Ivanov
>> Kazan State University
>>
>> 2010/3/31 martin <martin at ics.forth.gr>:
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>>> Subject:    Linked Data for the Culture Sector
>>> Date:  Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:49:42 +0200
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