[Crm-sig] Digital images and texts

Sean Gillies sean.gillies at gmail.com
Fri Jul 17 11:16:28 EEST 2009


On Jul 17, 2009, at 9:51 AM, martin wrote:

> Sean Gillies wrote:
>> The properties that relate these are not clear to me from the 5.01   
>> CIDOC CRM definition. Can a digital image of an inscription (or   
>> writing, etc) be said to "depict" (P62) the text, or is there   
>> necessarily an intermediary object (stone, paper) that carries the   
>> text and which is depicted or shown in the image?
>> Cheers,
>> --
>> Sean Gillies
>> Software Engineer
>> Institute for the Study of the Ancient World
>> New York University
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> Dear Sean,
>
> A Digital Image of an Inscription should be an
>
> E25 Man-Made Feature P65 shows visual item (is shown by)E38 Image  
> P106 is composed of (forms part of) E34 Inscription
>
> Only physical things have the property "depicts", so P62 is not  
> applicable to E38.
> The constraints in the CRM do not exclude to use E25 - P62 -E34, but  
> obviously, since
> there is a class "Inscription" more directly related via P65, the  
> former would not be an
> intended model.
>
> "Inscription" is regarded to be the text as it appears on the object.
>
> The relationship between an image (immaterial) and a text  
> (immaterial) on the image is more tricky.
> One can regard the text as a part of the conceptual content of the  
> image (E90), not of its symbolic form (bytes).
>
> See also http://cidoc.ics.forth.gr/frbr_drafts.html, FRBRoo version  
> 1.0, "R14 incorporates".
>
> There is a fuzzy transition between a digital image, a drawing and a  
> transcript of an inscription, i'd interpret
> as an "incorporation" relationship.
>
> Best,
>
> Martin

Thank you for the FRBRoo tip. R14 incorporates seems to be about right  
to me.

Cheers,
Sean

--
Sean Gillies
Software Engineer
Institute for the Study of the Ancient World
New York University



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