[Crm-sig] P20

martin martin at ics.forth.gr
Sat Sep 13 16:31:27 EEST 2008

Dear Christian-Emil,

Christian-Emil Ore wrote:
> Dear all,
> THe CRM is in its basic nature retrospective. That is, it models events 
> that has happened seen from the current point in time. The final 
> paragrpahp of the scope note for the property P20 is not consistent with 
> this view. If the bank (in the example) does not succeed in its take 
> over plan because it goes bankrupt before the take over event should 
> have taken place, then that event will never happen and will not exist. 
> Thus P20 actually implies that an activity succeeds in it achieving its 
> aims.

Yes, this was what we had actually in mind. The scope note is wrong.

Will be interesting to discuss planned events as extension of the CRM.
I'd suggest to make a remark in the scope note, that appropriate extensions may deal
with planned events, planned and realized events, planned and not realized events
(what is the notion of identity of a planned event, that may persist with the realization?)


> Regards,
> Christian-Emil
> P20 had specific purpose (was purpose of)
> Domain:	E7 Activity
> Range:	E7 Activity
> Quantification:	many to many (0,n:0,n)
> Scope Note:	This property describes the relationship between an E7 
> Activity and an activity that it is intended as a preparation for.
> This may involve activities in preparation for other activities, or 
> orders and other organisational activities, which lead to some other 
> specific activity.
> P20 had specific purpose (was purpose of) does not imply that an 
> activity succeeded in achieving its aims. For example, dubious 
> accounting practices may be carried out with the specific purpose of 
> enhancing share values and enabling a take-over bid. The specific 
> purpose remains the same even if the strategy fails and the company goes 
> bankrupt instead.
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