[Crm-sig] Modelling CIDOC/CRM constructors in CIDOC/CRMontology.

Vladimir Ivanov nomemm at mail.ru
Mon Jan 21 04:18:33 EET 2008


Dear all

As I understand, in order to use the CIDOC/CRM should be implemented 
with one of (dozens of) languages which already have notions of "class", "property", etc. 

IMHO, the only utility of the approach is 
to descibe in CRM-terms arbitrary conceptual models 
(classifications, taxonomies, and even other ontologies and even the CRM itself), 
which may be in scope of heritage interest.

But, can we use this "embedded" language to _model_ the CRM as it is? 

Best regards,
Vladimir


-----Original Message-----
From: "Stephen Stead" <steads at paveprime.org>
To: "'JoЦo Oliveira'" <joaoli13 at gmail.com>,<crm-sig at ics.forth.gr>, "'martin'" <martin at ics.forth.gr>
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:53:22 -0000
Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling CIDOC/CRM constructors in CIDOC/CRMontology.

> Dear all
> While I appreciate the elegance of this approach and the deep joy that pure
> modellers get from modelling their model in their model I am not really sure
> I understand the utility that this gives us in a Heritage context. If this
> small extension will make it easier to talk to IT people then great but it
> is going to be difficult to explain to a Heritage audience. So if we need it
> for automation then can we hide it in an "automation extension" or else just
> leave it in the introductory text and FAQs as it is now.
> If we do need it then the scope note for P145 is wrong as a property does
> not define a class: it must show the relationship between a class and a
> class that is a sub-class of the first class.
> Happy hunting
> SdS
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> 
> Stephen Stead
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> From: crm-sig-bounces at ics.forth.gr [mailto:crm-sig-bounces at ics.forth.gr] On
> Behalf Of JoЦo Oliveira
> Sent: 19 January 2008 20:54
> To: crm-sig at ics.forth.gr; martin
> Subject: [Crm-sig] Modelling CIDOC/CRM constructors in CIDOC/CRM ontology.
> 
> 
> Dear Martin Doerr and CIDOC CRM specialists,
>  
> Following a suggestion of new classes and properties that allows the
> modelling of CIDOC/CRM constructors in CIDOC/CRM ontology:
>  
> /////////////////////////////////////
> E85 Class
> Subclass of: E28 Conceptual Object
> Scope Note:
> "A class is a category of items that share one or more common traits serving
> as criteria to identify the items belonging to the class." 
> Properties:
> P3 has note (P3.1 = "Scope Note (intension)"): E62 String
> P3 has note (P3.1 = "Examples"): E62 String
> P145 isA (subsumes): E85 Class 
> 
> /////////////////////////////////////
> E86 Property
> Subclass of: E28 Conceptual Object
> Scope Note:
> "A property serves to define a relationship of a specific kind between two
> classes."
> Properties: 
> P3 has note (P3.1 = "Scope Note (intesion)"): E62 String
> P3 has note (P3.1 = "Examples"): E62 String
> P143 has domain (is domain of): E85 Class
>   (P143.1 domain cardinality minimum: E60 Number) 
>   (P143.1 domain cardinality maximum: E60 Number)
> P144 has range (is range of): E85 Class
>   (P144.1 range cardinality minimum: E60 Number)
>   (P144.1 range cardinality maximum: E60 Number)
> P146 isA (subsumes): E86 Property 
> 
> /////////////////////////////////////
> P143 has domain (is domain of)
> Domain: E86 Property
> Range: E85 Class
> Quantification: (1:1,1:1)
> Scope Note:
> "The domain is the class for which a property is formally defined."
>  
> /////////////////////////////////////
> P144 has range (is range of)
> Domain: E86 Property
> Range: E85 Class
> Quantification: (1:1,1:1)
> Scope Note:
> "The range is the class that comprises all potential values of a property."
>  
> /////////////////////////////////////
> P145 isA (subsumes)
> Domain: E85 Class
> Range: E85 Class
> Quantification: 
> Scope Note:
> "This property define the class that specializes another class."
>  
> /////////////////////////////////////
> P146 isA (subsumes)
> Domain: E86 Property
> Range: E86 Property
> Quantification: 
> Scope Note:
> "This property define the property that specializes another property."
> 
> Regards,
>  
> JoЦo Alberto de Oliveira Lima
> 
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