[Crm-sig] Relations between information objects

martin martin at ics.forth.gr
Fri Jan 11 23:34:21 EET 2008

Dear Dieter,

I suggest to use "P130 shows features of" and P130.1 kind of similarity: "Transcript".
I'd regard your manuscript as a E33 Linguistic Object in any case, it can be in addition
a Visual Item, but I don't think tiny decorations would make this classification necessary.


Dieter Köhler wrote:
> Trying to record the structure of a manuscript 
> and its digital reproductions with CIDOC CRM 
> 4.2.2 I come across the following problem.  I 
> have a digital facsimile and a normalized 
> transcription of a manuscript.  The facsimile 
> consists of scans of the individual pages of the 
> manuscript; the transcription is normalized by 
> correcting misspellings, skipping deleted 
> passages and rearranging some others (according 
> to insertion marks in the manuscript).
> I understand that
> (A) the physical manuscript is an E84 Information Carrier
> (B) a digital scan is an E73 Information Object 
> (more precisely an E36 Visual Item)
> (C) a transcription is an E73 Information Object 
> (I am not sure whether I can use E33 Linguistic 
> Object here, because some paragraphs contain tiny 
> non-linguistic illustrations within the textual sequence)
> (D) a particular file on the hard disk containing 
> a scan is an E84 Information Carrier
> (E) a particular file on the hard disk containing 
> a transcription is an E84 Information Carrier
> The following relations apply:
> (A) P128 carries (B)
> (A) P128 carries (C)
> (D) P128 carries (B)
> (E) P128 carries (C)
> (B) and (C) are distinct E73 Information Objects, 
> but nevertheless the transcription (C) is an 
> interpretation of the visual clues of (B), 
> expressed for example in: "The vertical stroke in 
> the first line is the word 'I'."
> I think it would be useful to have a predicate in 
> CIDOC-CRM to indicate that one Information Object 
> is not identical with but derived from 
> another.  The closest predicates in meaning are 
> 'P67 refers to' and 'P138 represents'.  However, 
> it seems that neither is really accurate here.  Any ideas?
> Dieter Köhler
> Dr. Dieter Köhler, M.A.
> Wissenschaftlicher Assistent
> Institut für Philosophie und
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> Universität Karlsruhe (TH)
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