[crm-sig] CIDOC CRM poster?

Gill, Tony TG at mellon.org
Wed Feb 12 17:42:42 EET 2003


Your diagram is very helpful -- much clearer than the version I use for
Powerpoint presentations etc. (IsA hierarchy screen-captured from SIS and
stitched by hand in Photoshop, attached).

I strongly believe we should provide a graphical representation of (at
least) the IsA hierarchy on our website, and additional graphical
representatations showing other properties would also be very helpful.


Tony Gill
ArtSTOR Director of Metadata, The Andrew W. Mellon Foundation,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Crofts Nicholas (DAEL) [mailto:nicholas.crofts at etat.ge.ch]
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 February, 2003 6:31 AM
> To: 'crm-sig at ics.forth.gr'
> Cc: 'martin'
> Subject: RE: [crm-sig] CIDOC CRM poster?
> Dear all,
> The attached file is a Word document containing a single 
> image. This is a
> vector image of the CRM version 3.2 showing all the classes 
> (entities) but
> omitting attributes (property links.) The colouring has no semantic
> significance other than to highlight the different levels of depth.
> The document is configured for A3 paper by default. This 
> would need to be
> changed according to local print stock. The image itself can 
> be resized
> easily in word by clicking on it once, to reveal the drag 
> points, and by
> pulling on one of the corners. NB pulling a drag points on 
> the side of the
> image will deform it. 
> Printed out at A3 size, the text labels of the entities 
> remains readable. I
> often make the point in presentations that inspite of itsapparent
> complexity, the entire CRM model can be represented on a 
> single A3 sheet
> without requiring a maginifying glass (though I admit I do 
> need to wear
> reading glasses!)
> I prepared this graphic for my own use using a standard CASE tool. If
> members of the SIG find it useful it could be updated to 
> reflect the current
> state of the model and improved in various ways to enhance 
> its use as a tool
> for communication.
> An alternative to this "poster" approach is to use a high level
> representation which omits all the classes beneath a certain 
> depth. I have
> found this quite useful as way of explaining the basic 
> concepts without
> "frightening the horses".
> Best wishes
> Nick Crofts
> P.S I believe some members of the SIG have considered 
> transforming this
> graphic into a "mobile" - as an ontology training tool for 
> the very young. I
> don't know how much progress has been made in this direction. ;-)
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : martin [mailto:martin at ics.forth.gr]
> Envoye : mercredi, 12. fevrier 2003 10:44
> A : crm-sig at ics.forth.gr
> Objet : [crm-sig] CIDOC CRM poster?
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: jakob.voss at s1999.tu-chemnitz.de
> Posted-Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:29:00 +0200 (EET)
> Received-Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:29:00 +0200 (EET)
> Message-ID: <1045006135.3e4987373f910 at mail.tu-chemnitz.de>
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 00:28:55 +0100
> To: crm-sig at ics.forth.gr
> Subject: CIDOC CRM poster?
> Dear list members,
> I am just trying to understand the CIDOC CRM. As I am a 
> little familiar
> with ontologies the concept is not difficult but it is just the number
> of entities and relations that is a problem. Especially if you want to
> explain the structure to other people concept maps are a must.
> There are some diagrams of parts of the CRM in several papers (for
> instance at the slides in the "Tutorial" section of the new homepage)
> that are very helpful, but i have not found a comprehensive graphic
> of all the entities and relations. A poster (propably DIN A1 size)
> would be *very* useful to understand, adapt and talk about the CRM!
> 62 Entities and 107 Properties are quite much (necessary, i suppose!)
> but they should fit on a square meter of paper. If they do not, how
> can they fit in one's mind!
> So is there such a poster overview?
> thanks a lot,
>    Jakob Vo?

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